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Tragedy Friday July 22, 2011 in Oslo, Norway
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14294251


26 July 2011


Norway attacks: Anders Behring Breivik insane - lawyer


The lawyer defending Anders Behring Breivik, who admits carrying out Friday's mass killings in Norway, says his client is probably insane.

However he added it was too early to say if Mr Breivik would plead insanity.

Meanwhile, police have defended their handling of the event in which 76 people died in the bombing in Oslo and a shooting spree on a nearby island.

It was an hour-and-a-half before an armed unit reached Utoeya island after the shooting began.

"I don't think we think we could have done this faster," Police Chief of Staff Johan Fredriksen told journalists in Oslo.

He also dismissed criticism that staff manning the police department's one helicopter were on holiday.

Mr Fredriksen said the helicopter was only used for observational purposes and would not have affected the reaction to the shooting.

Mr Breivik is facing terrorism charges and police are considering also charging him with crimes against humanity, which carry a possible 30-year sentence, a prosecutor has said.

Mr Breivik's lawyer, Geir Lippestad, told reporters: "This whole case indicated that he is insane."

He said his client believed that he was in a war and that he would be vindicated in 60 years' time.

A medical evaluation would be carried out to establish his psychiatric condition, Mr Lippestad added.

He said Mr Breivik had told him he was part of an anti-Islam network that had two cells in Norway and several more abroad.

Norwegian police and researchers have cast doubt on such claims, but said they were investigating them.

A police spokesman said two psychiatrists would assess Mr Breivik, who was also being kept on suicide watch.

Mr Lippestad also said that his client had used "some kind of drugs" before the crime.

'Fantastic' police work

Mr Breivik, a right-wing Christian extremist, appeared in court on Monday to face charges of destabilising vital functions of society, including government, and causing serious fear in the population.

He accepted responsibility for the attacks but denied the terrorism charges.

Prosecutor Christian Hatlo told Aftenposten that a new charge of crimes against humanity, which could be brought under a 2008 law, was "a possibility".

Police spokesman Sturla Henreiksboe told AFP news agency: "Police have so far cited... the law on terrorism but seeking other charges has not been excluded."

Earlier Mr Hatlo said Mr Breivik claimed he had worked in a cell, or group, and that there were two other cells working with him.

Although police sources say other groups are unlikely, Mr Hatlo said he "cannot completely, and I stress completely, rule out that others were involved in what happened".

He said his operation had not been aimed at killing as many people as possible but that he wanted to create the greatest loss possible to Norway's governing Labour Party, which he accused of failing the country on immigration.

The bomb in Oslo targeted buildings connected to the Labour government, and the youth camp on Utoeya island that was attacked was also run by the party.

The police have said they are to start to formally release the names of the victims on their website at 18:00 local time (16:00 GMT).

Police chief Sveinung Sponheim said the names, including the victims' ages and where they lived would be published.

Names will continue to be released at 16:00 GMT each day until all the victims have been identified and all relatives informed, he said.

Earlier Norwegian Justice Minister Knut Storberget praised the "fantastic" work done by police.

"I had the opportunity to thank police in Oslo and other districts," he told reporters after talks with Oslo's police chief.

The praise comes despite criticism in the media that officers were slow to respond to the shooting on Utoeya island, where most of the victims died.

"It is very important that we have an open and critical approach," Mr Storberget said, "but there is a time for everything."

Mr Breivik has been remanded in custody for eight weeks, the first four in full isolation.

On Monday up to 250,000 people poured on to the streets of the capital, many of them holding flowers in memory of the eight people killed in the Oslo blast and the 68 who died at the youth camp on Utoeya.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/26/norway-killer-breivik-surprised-stopped

Anders Behring Breivik: 'I'm surprised I wasn't stopped'

Norway gunman told lawyer he expected to be killed before he reached Utøya island

Mark Townsend in Oslo and Helen Pidd

The Guardian

Wednesday 27 July 2011


The man behind Norway's terror attacks has told his lawyer he was surprised he was not stopped straight after he bombed Oslo city centre, and that he expected to be killed before he reached the island where he shot dead 68 people.

Anders Behring Breivik was a "very cold" man who had taken drugs to keep himself awake during the shootings, the lawyer, Geir Lippestad, told a press conference yesterday.

Breivik, who has confessed to killing 76 people in the atrocities in Oslo and on Utøya island, told Lippestad he was at war with the world, and that killing was justified in a war. "He was a little surprised he succeeded – in his mind succeeded," Lippestad said. "He was expecting to be stopped earlier by the police or someone else during the actual day. He was surprised that he reached the island.

"He thought he would be killed after the bombing, after the action in the island, and he also thought he would be killed at the trial. He believes someone will kill him."

Breivik also claimed that he was part of an anti-Islam network that has two cells in Norway and "several" more abroad.

Asked to explain Breivik's mindset, Lippestad said: "He says he is sorry he had to do this but it is necessary. He looks upon himself as a warrior. And he started this war, and takes some kind of pride in that.

"He believes this is the start of a war that will go on for 60 years," Lippestad said. "He believes the other cells will continue the war."

Lippestad said that after several meetings with his client, he believed Breivik was mentally ill. "This whole case indicated that he is insane," he said of the 32-year-old, who denies he is a criminal.

The lawyer, a member of Norway's Labour party whose youth wing was targeted by Breivik, said he did not know why the killer had chosen him to represent him. He added that if his client were to refuse to take psychological tests he would quit from his defence. Two psychiatric experts will now evaluate Breivik's mental state.

According to Lippestad, Breivik remains unaware of the revulsion his attacks have sparked and does not know the number of people he killed last Friday.

In isolation, a request by the suspect for a copy of the WikiLeaks files was reportedly rejected by the authorities last night.

It also emerged the Utøya Island massacre was, partly, drug-fuelled. Lippestad said the gunman had taken unspecified drugs in order "to be strong, to be efficient, to keep him awake" during the shootings.

Focus continues to intensify on links between British far-right groups and Breivik, with London the city where the suspect claimed to have launched his so-called organisation to "save Europe from Muslim takeover".

Johan Fredrikson, the chief of Oslo police, said that despite an international investigation, including involvement by British police, they still had no evidence that there was an accomplice or network behind the attacks.

Breivik's claims that he was surprised not to have been stopped earlier will add to pressure on police, who have been criticised for taking more than an hour to reach Utøya island.

It emerged on Tuesday that the nearest police helicopter available was not able to intervene because its pilots were on holiday.

Teenagers trapped on the island during the shootings last Friday claimed that they were told to stay off the line because authorities were dealing with the earlier Oslo bombing, according to relatives and local reports.

Broader questions have since emerged concerning the failure of Norwegian intelligence over the attacks. Breivik was allegedly placed on a watchlist after buying fertiliser in Poland that may have been used to build the Oslo bomb. It is thought that no further action was taken.

On Tuesday night, Norwegian police detonated a cache of explosives found at a farm leased by Breivik. "Explosives were found at the farm," police prosecutor Trine Dyngeland told Reuters. "The police carried out a controlled detonation of the explosives." She said no one was hurt in the controlled blast, at Rena, about 100 miles (160km) north of Oslo.

Officials confirmed they have opened an investigation into a Polish chemist after he admitted supplying chemicals to Breivik.

The internal security agency in Warsaw said that a Polish man faces up to eight years in prison for selling to Breivik via the internet "substances that could be potentially dangerous to the life and health of many people".

The device that exploded on Friday had a devastating ferocity. Since the blast, the justice minister, Knut Storberget, has revealed that employees from his department still remain missing in the ruins of the destroyed government building.
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http://www.interaksyon.com/article/9223/anders-behring-breivik-from-ordinary-boy-to-mass-murderer

Anders Behring Breivik: from ordinary boy to mass murderer
25-Jul-11, 6:17 AM | Pierre-Henry Deshayes, Agence France-Presse

OSLO - Despite looking like your average Norwegian, Anders Behring Breivik spent almost a third of his life working on an extremist plot that looks set to make him one of the bloodiest murderers in history.

Tall, blond and with piercing blue eyes, the 32-year-old is suspected of being behind the carnage that left 93 people dead on Friday, charges police say he confessed to, calling the killings "cruel" but "necessary."

While his precise motives remain a mystery, there's no doubt about his determination.

On the day of the massacre, Behring Breivik published a 1,500-page tract on the Internet in which he lays out his Islamophobic and anti-Marxist ideology developed over the last nine years -- and the moment in 2009 he decided to put words into action.

Presenting himself as a Crusader, he explains how he hid from his friends and family in order to prevent his plot being exposed. And his secret appears to have stayed just that.

"For me he just looked like your average guy. He could easily go unnoticed," said Emil Finneruo, a neighbor who said he went to school with the suspect.

"A well-kept Norwegian that no one would suspect," he told Agence France-Presse.

Behring Breivik says himself that he had an unremarkable childhood, with a diplomat father and a nurse mother who divorced when he was just one year old.

"I have had a privileged upbringing with responsible and intelligent people around me," he wrote in his tract.

Raised by his mother in a middle class family, he said he never had financial problems and has only one gripe: "I had way too much freedom though if anything."

"When he was younger, he was an ordinary boy but not very communicative. He was not interested in politics at the time," his father Anders, with whom he lost contact aged 15, told Norwegian newspaper VG on Sunday.

In 1999 he joined the populist right-wing Progress Party and was active with the party's local youth branch.

He ended his membership in 2006, writing later on an Internet forum that he felt the party was too open to "multicultural demands" and "the suicidal ideas of humanism."

"Those who knew him when he was a member of the organization say that he was a fairly shy boy who rarely took part in discussions," the Progress Party said on Saturday.

While his criticism of Islam, multiculturalism and Marxism are all over the Internet -- where he was very active -- Behring Breivik considered himself to be "a laid back type and quite tolerant on most issues."

"Due to the fact that I have been exposed to decades of multicultural indoctrination I feel a need to emphasize that I am not in fact a racist and never have been," he wrote.

"Being a skinhead was never an option for me. Their dress codes and taste of music was unappealing and I thought they were too extreme," he wrote, adding that he had "dozens of non-Norwegian friends during my younger years"

On his Facebook profile, Behring Breivik describes himself as "conservative," "Christian," and interested in hunting and video games like "World of Warcraft" and "Modern Warfare 2."

He had little or no income in 2009 and previous years according to his tax declaration -- public information in Norway -- and bought a small piece of agricultural land earlier this year.

That allowed him in May to buy, without raising suspicions, six tons of fertilizer and chemicals, which he apparently used to make the explosives used against government buildings on Friday, killing seven.

He also joined a shooting club, which enabled him to get the permit to buy firearms, including an assault rifle believed to have been used as he shot dead scores of young Labour Party members on the island of Utoeya, near Oslo.
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http://www.christianpost.com/news/norway-bombing-massacre-fundamentalist-christian-killer-anders-behring-breivik-reveals-hate-toward-modern-church-52745/

Sat, Jul. 23 2011 03:35 PM EDT
Norway Bombing, Killings: Arrested 'Fundamentalist Christian' Anders Behring Breivik Reveals Hatred of Modern-Day Church in Blogs
By Daniel Blake


Norwegian police have arrested a man Saturday, whom they describe as a “right-wing fundamentalist Christian,” in connection with the youth camp massacre on Friday that left 85 people dead. He has, however, in recent years expressed his disgust at the modern Protestant Church, which he was baptized into at the age of 15.

Breivik was baptized into the Protestant church by "his own free will," but in recent years expressed disappointment and his disgust at the Protestant Church, and his support for an "indirect collective conversion” of the Protestant Church back to the Catholic Church.

Breivik's Facebook page was taken down on Friday, but not before the media could glean some insight from it. The Atlantic reports that his favorite books are Franz Kafka's The Trial and George Orwell's Nineteen-Eighty-Four. His favorite television show is “Dexter,” which features a serial killer as its main character.

Breivik’s blogs reveal a lot about his thoughts and views:

1) On the “Church” he blogged:

"Today's Protestant church is a joke. Priests in jeans who march for Palestine and churches that look like minimalist shopping centres. I am a supporter of an indirect collective conversion of the Protestant church back to the Catholic."

2) On “Hate Theologies” he blogged:

“Islam (ism) has historically led to 300 million deaths. Communism has historically led to 100 million deaths. Nazism has historically led to 6-20 million deaths. ALL hate ideologies should be treated equally.”

3) On “Fear of Islam Taking Over Oslo” he blogged:

“There are political forces in Oslo who want mass-subsidised and low-cost 'Islam-blocks' in Oslo West for 'better integration'... If this ever becomes the case, most of Oslo West will move to Bærum (and most will eventually follow).

4) On “Marxists in Norway and Sweden” he blogged:

“In Norway and Sweden extreme Marxist attitudes have become acceptable/everyday while the old-established truths of patriotism and cultural conservatism today are branded as extremism.”

5) On the “English Defence League” he blogged:

“The tactics of the EDL is to 'entice' an overreaction from jihad youth/extreme Marxists, something they have succeeded [in] several times already.”

6) On his anger towards the “Progress Party” he blogged:

“The vast majority of new faces in the Progress party are now politically correct career politicians and not in any way idealists who are willing to take risks and work for idealistic goals.”
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8663946/Norway-killer-Anders-Behring-Breivik-insane.html

By Gordon Rayner, Duncan Gardham

26 Jul 2011


Norway killer: Anders Behring Breivik 'insane'
Anders Behring Breivik was “surprised” he was able to carry on shooting students on Utoya island for 90 minutes before police eventually caught up with him, his solicitor said, as he made clear he regarded his client as “insane”.



Geir Lippestad said Breivik assumed he would be shot before he even got as far as Utoya, where he killed 68 young members of the Labour Party.

Norwegian police have been heavily criticised for their apparently slow response in getting officers to the island after they received the first reports of shots being fired.

Mr Lippestad said: “He was a little bit surprised that he succeeded. He was expecting to be stopped earlier by the police or someone else on the actual day.

“He thought he’d be killed after the bombing, after the action on the island, and he also thought he’d be killed at the trial.”

Police confirmed that Breivik has been placed on suicide watch in his solitary confinement cell while psychiatrists assess his mental state.


But Mr Lippestad said he regarded his client as “insane”, adding: “The whole case has indicated that he is insane.”

Breivik had asked him how many people he had killed, which the lawyer refused to tell him, but had not shown any remorse for his victims.

“He is a very cold person. He is sorry that he had to do this but it was necessary because he is in a war.”

Mr Lippestad said his client had pleaded not guilty to murder when he appeared in court on Monday because: “He believes that he is in a war and he believes that when you are in a war you can do things like that without pleading guilty.

“He looks upon himself as a warrior who has started a war and he takes some pride in that.

“He thinks the rest of the world don’t understand his point of view but in 60 years’ time we will all understand him.”

He said Breivik had taken drugs before going on the rampage “to be strong, to be efficient, to keep him awake”.

He added that Breivik, who has been charged with murder and terrorist offences, could also be charged with crimes against humanity, which would enable the courts to lock him up indefinitely.

The maximum sentence for the crimes he is currently charged with is 21 years.

Norway’s intelligence agencies have also come under scrutiny after they admitted Breivik’s name had been passed to them by Interpol in March after he bought a large quantity of chemicals from a Polish company.

But Janne Kristiansen, the head of the PST security police, said: “I don’t think even Stasi Germany could have uncovered this person.”

Lukasz Mikus, the Polish chemist from whom Breivik bought materials to use in the bomb he detonated in the centre of Oslo, said: “Anders was only my customer but because of that I have a big mess.

“He was an absolutely normal customer with normal questions. There was nothing strange in his emails.”
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/anders-behring-breivik-manufacturing-a-patsy.html

Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy?

Trusting media portrayal of gunman foolish given how press got it spectacularly wrong in blaming Muslims

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, July 25, 2011

Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy?

Given the fact that the establishment media got it spectacularly wrong by instantly jumping to the conclusion that Friday’s deadly attack in Norway was the work of Al-Qaeda Muslims, placing complete trust in the details emerging about gunman Anders Behring Breivik would be foolish, especially since there are innumerable inconsistencies and contradictions that need to be studied before a fuller picture of what motivated the bloodshed can be established.

The rush to blame Muslims for the carnage, hastily parroted by an onslaught of mainstream “terror experts,” was a startling insight into how the propaganda that fuels the war on terror is so unquestionably bounced around the echo chamber of the corporate media.

It’s also a reminder that the mainstream press instantly falls in line with whoever the establishment designates the enemy du jour to be at any given time. Now that Muslims have been so vehemently demonized as terrorists, it’s the turn of so called “right-wing extremists,” or anyone who disagrees with mass immigration, loss of sovereignty and globalist financial looting, to feel the heat.

The effort to smear European conservatives as unhinged radicals who harbor simmering urges for bloodlust is now in full swing, and it’s a demonization campaign firmly founded on the carefully crafted public portrayal of Anders Behring Breivik.

However, it’s quickly becoming apparent that just as many eyewitnesses reported two gunmen on the island where the rampage unfolded, there are two different personas behind Breivik himself.

Indeed, there are two different Facebook profiles for Breivik, one from before the massacre and one from after. The latter profile appears to have been embellished and deliberately altered to emphasize the notion that the gunman was motivated by his “Christian conservative” beliefs.

Compare the two profiles below (click to enlarge). The first one in Norwegian was deleted minutes after Breivik’s identity became public. The second profile in English appeared after the original was deleted, and became the de facto profile of the killer.

Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy? 250711facebook1 Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy? 250711facebook2
Before/After

“Several things have been doctored up to alter the suspects political views. First a section titled “Philosophy” has been added to include “Christian,” and “Conservative.” The media has used this to great lengths,” notes the Council of Conservative Christians website.

In the second profile, Breivik’s interest in Winston Churchill and Max Manus, the leader of the Norwegian anti-Nazi resistance, have been deleted, presumably because they don’t fit with the psychological profile that Breivik was a right-wing neo-Nazi who had links with the English Defence League.

There was clearly manipulation surrounding Breivik’s Facebook page after the attack. As Madison Ruppert notes, “Someone was active on Breivik’s Facebook accepting friend requests after the massacre took place.” People were also tricked into registering on a fake Facebook page set up in support of the gunman’s actions.

Additionally, in a series of Internet postings, Breivik clearly characterizes himself not as a populist Christian conservative, as the media has attempted to push, but as a Bill Kristol style neo-con, an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, attacking racists and accusing others of being “anti-gay”.

“None of the comments are extreme or hint at a desire to commit violence,” notes the CCC website, adding that Breivik was a supporter of the website which was run by Hans Rustad, a former Jewish left-winger turned neo-conservative.

It seems as if there are two Breivik’s, the original, a socially liberal, pro-Israel neo-con, and the second post-massacre profile of a Christian conservative, white supremacist. The second profile has clearly been embellished to push the notion that Breivik’s rampage was driven by his Christian conservative beliefs, which is convenient given the fact that governments recently introduced the meme that white, Christian conservatives were the leading terror threat.

Breivik’s character of an enraged psychopath intent on butchering as many people as possible in the name of his cause is also contradicted by people who knew him personally.

In an interview with Russia Today, Ulav Andersson, who worked closely with Breivik, said that the killer showed behavior “absolutely nothing anywhere near that” depicted by the media’s characterization of him, and that his apparent racism was never expressed in terms any harsher than mild and “mundane” annoyance at being rejected by women. Andersson said that Breivik was not opinionated, “never came across as some kind of religious fanatic or anything,” and did not have a well developed ideology.

Adding that he never imagined Breivik would be capable of committing such an atrocity, Andersson says that he thinks Breivik was “brainwashed,” a judgment which correlates with eyewitness reports stating Breivik carried out what would have undoubtedly been an intense and stressful rampage with complete calmness and a blank expression on his face.

Andersson’s portrayal of Breivik seems to fit far more with the pre-massacre Facebook profile of the gunman as oppose to the post-massacre profile which seems to have been embellished to a significant degree.

A plethora of other questions continue to circulate surrounding Breivik and his motives. Why did this supposedly anti-Muslim crusader slaughter dozens of white Norwegian teenagers? Why didn’t he target a mosque? Why did this supposed “Christian conservative” list a television series that glorifies vampirism (True Blood) as his favorite show? How did Breivik’s ties to freemasonry and his obsession with the Knights Templar play into his rampage? Why did Breivik lift entire portions of leftist Unabomber Ted Kaczynski’s manifesto and incorporate them into his own screed?

Just like the Oklahoma City bombing, which the case has been obsessively likened with, the evidence is starting to point to a wider plot, but concurrently there seems to be a deliberate effort to manufacture a profile of Breivik as a lone-nut psychopath who was influenced by racism, nationalism, Christianity, and a hatred for Europe’s predominantly neo-liberal elite, who coincidentally will reap the greatest political benefits from this tragic massacre.
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http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/07/25/anders-behring-breivik-a-disturbing-ideology/


Anders Behring Breivik: a disturbing ideology

By Jody McIntyre
The Foreign Desk
Monday, 25 July 2011


A bomb goes off at the office of the Norwegian Prime Minister’s office. Hours later, a lone gunman goes on a killing spree on the island of Utoya. The news are quick to pin the blame to Al-Qa’ida, or in fact, any Muslims. Kurdish organisations, Muammer Gaddafi and Afghanis are mentioned. All without a shred of evidence. Another terrorist attack. Or as Murdoch’s Sun newspaper ran with the following morning, “Norway’s 9/11”.

But something didn’t add up. The only person to be arrested was a white man with blonde hair, or “apparently blonde” hair, who spoke fluent Norwegian. The obvious signs were pointing towards the far right. Sky News’ analysis amounted to, ‘he could be an Islamic convert’. Despite the revelation of Anders Behring Breivik’s identity, the Sun continued with it’s front page splash, tactfully removing the planned sub-heading of “Al-Qa’ida Massacre”.

Gradually, the Sky News hawks, as political hip-hop artist Lowkey summarised on his Twitter feed, began to “swallow their propaganda”. Pure racism and Islamophobia, exposed for what they were. This terrorist attack did not fit the desired narrative.

Possible motives for the Breivik massacre began to emerge. Images of the Norwegian ruling party’s youth camp on the island of Utoya were published online, where, just days before the attack, teenagers had met with Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere. They had demanded the government recognise a Palestinian state. One photograph shows the Foreign Minister in the foreground, with a banner held up in the background reading “Boikott Israel”. Boycott Israel.

A manifesto, written by Breivik, was also discovered. The 1500 page document, entitled “A European Declaration of Independence”, reveals a troubling ideology. “Let us fight together with Israel,” Breivik writes, “with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists.” In a section headed “Controversial principles”, the manifesto continues:

Supports the deportation of all Muslims from Europe Pro-Israel (pro-Zionism/Israeli nationalism, supports the deportation of Muslims from theWest Bank and the Gaza strip) Pro-Boer/Afrikaner (supporting a partition of South Africa into two parts).

The section also lists China, India, the Phillipines and Sri Lanka as countries that all Muslims should be deported from. Above the section is a quote from John Law:

“Before we can do anything, there must be a we.”

According to the mainstream media, this “we” does not exist. Breivik was a lone psychopath, and the attack was a complete surprise. The truth is, the twisted ideology he so violently put into action is one that is aided by Cameron’s speeches against multiculturalism, Theresa May’s war-mongering rhetoric and attempts to deport pro-Palestinian activists, and the EDL’s violent demonstrations on the streets. Unless we challenge this ideology in all contexts, people with Breivik’s mind-set will continue to gain confidence.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018713/Anders-Behring-Breivik-Norway-massacre-killer-links-British-extremists.html

Smirk of the maniac: As mass murderer grins outside court, full scale of his links to British extremists emergesAnders Breivik admits killing 76 - but denies criminal responsibility
Killer chatted with members of BNP and EDL on social networking sites
David Cameron says links to these groups will be taken 'extremely seriously'
Breivik alludes to two other cells during court appearance in Oslo
Claims he was on Norwegian Secret Service watchlist since March


By Rebecca Camber, Jaya Narain and Colin Fernandez

26th July 2011



An arrogant smile on his lips, mass murderer Anders Breivik shows not a shred of remorse as he leaves court.
Dressed in a red polo shirt and sweater, the 32-year-old assassin sat calmly in a police vehicle yesterday after admitting killing at least 76 people – but denying criminal responsibility.
A prosecutor said he seemed ‘completely unaffected’ by what he had done.

The Norwegian fanatic has been in close contact with hundreds of British right-wing extremists for two years, it emerged last night.
He chatted about ‘tactics’ on social networking sites with hundreds of members of the English Defence League (EDL) and the British National Party (BNP) and attended demonstrations and meetings here.
The revelations came as:

David Cameron ordered new checks on British far-Right groups;

The killer claimed there are two more terror cells ‘in our organisation’;
He described the massacre as a ‘marketing’ ploy to promote his warped manifesto;

Breivik’s horrified father said he wished his son had taken his own life instead of killing innocent children;

The death toll from his bomb blast in Oslo and his island shooting spree was revised to 76;

It emerged Breivik had been on a Norwegian security watchlist since March but was not followed up.

Senior MPs demanded an inquiry into the killer’s links with Britain after it was claimed that he met extremists in London as recently as last year, as well as attending EDL rallies in London and Newcastle.

Anti-extremist campaign groups and think tanks called on the Government to classify EDL as a far-Right organisation.

The Prime Minister, who discussed the massacre with security chiefs at a National Security Council meeting, said the killer’s links to groups in Britain were being taken ‘extremely seriously’.
He said: ‘We are still investigating these claims, so I don’t want to give out partial information. We want to get to the bottom of this before making public announcements. But we take these things extremely seriously.’

Mr Cameron, who was at the Norwegian Embassy in London to sign a book of condolence, went on: ‘Everyone in Britain shares in the sorrow and the anger at the despicable killing that took place on Friday. Britain and Norway have been good allies and neighbours in very dark days before.

‘We know that the resilience and the courage and the decency of our Norwegian friends will overcome this evil.’

He added: ‘After such a dreadful event the British Government must of course review our own security at home.’

Thousands gathered in the centre of Oslo at noon to observe a minute’s silence for those who lost their lives in Friday’s massacre

Immediately afterwards many made their way to the city’s court to await Breivik’s arrival. While a few jeered as the heavily armed police convoy arrived, most simply stood and stared at the building housing the country’s most vilified individual.

The hearing was closed, denying Breivik the opportunity to make a public statement in front of the world’s media.

Later the judge said that Breivik had alluded to ‘two other cells’ in his network – a claim he also made in a ‘manifesto’ published hours before the twin assaults.

But he also maintained he had been acting alone. Police in Oslo said they would now probe the ‘two cells’ claims by Breivik.

Judge Kim Heger said that Breivik had told him that he wanted to save Europe from a Muslim takeover.

He said his bombing and shooting rampage was intended to send a ‘strong signal to the people’ and deter future recruitment to the Norwegian Labour Party, which he blamed for allowing ‘mass imports of Muslims’.

The judge said: ‘Even though the accused has acknowledged the facts of the case, he has not pleaded criminal responsibility.

‘The accused has made statements that require further investigation, including that “there are two more cells in our organisation”.’
Breivik was remanded in solitary confinement for eight weeks with a ban on letters, access to media and visitors.

The Foreign Secretary William Hague confirmed that a senior officer from Scotland Yard’s Counter Terrorism Command is liaising with police in Norway.

Breivik has claimed he was recruited by two English Right-wing extremists at a UK meeting in 2002 attended by seven others.
In a rambling 1,500-page manifesto posted on the internet shortly before his attacks, Breivik praised the EDL.

He wrote: ‘I used to have more than 600 EDL members as Facebook friends and have spoken with tens of EDL members and leaders.

‘In fact I was one of the individuals who supplied them with processed ideological material (including rhetorical strategies) in the very beginning.’

A source within the EDL said last night: ‘I know people within the English Defence League who claim Anders Breivik was at some of those meetings.

‘Also, people who he knows have been over to the UK many times and are very active within the EDL circles in London. There are definite connections between this man and the UK.’

Matthew Collins, spokesman for the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, told the Daily Mail: ‘EDL was his inspiration, ideologically and politically.’
Breivik also referred to the BNP 23 times in his 1,500-page manifesto.

The English Defence League, which has risen to prominence over the last two years with its anti-Islamic protests, has denied ‘any official contact’ with the killer.

Conservative Patrick Mercer, former chairman of the Commons counter-terrorism subcommittee, said authorities should investigate the risk of a plot in Britain.

It emerged that Breivik had been on a Norwegian security watchlist since March after his name was linked to the purchase of chemicals from a Polish supplier.

However, the head of Norway’s police intelligence agency said this was a ‘superfluous archive’ and they had not followed it up because he had only bought £11 worth of the chemicals.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and now muslims try to connect the guy to everyone but themselves.

we will be hearing how this one tragic event is so much worse than the murders muslims commit each and every day for years to come.

oh well at least we will not have to keep trying to explain the reality of things that happened several hundred years ago.



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US Muslims call for probe on Norway killer's ties with Hindu nationalists
27 July 2011
TODAYSZAMAN.COM



American Muslims have urged mosques and Muslim schools to increase security and have demanded an investigation into militant Hindu supremacist groups in the US after it became clear that the suspect in the bombing and mass shooting that killed 76 people in Norway praised nationalist Hindutva elements.


Muslim Peace Coalition USA and Indian Minorities Advocacy Network (ImanNet) leaders Seemi Ahmed and Dr. Shaik Ubaid have condemned the heinous terrorist massacres in Norway and expressed their heartfelt condolences to the victims and their families, according to a statement released by the Muslim Peace Coalition USA on Tuesday.

Addressing a meeting of civil rights and human rights activists in New York, they expressed alarm over the connection between Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian suspect, and international Hindutva supremacists. They demanded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of Homeland Security investigate militant Hindutva supremacist groups in the US. They also appealed to Indian consulates and Hindu temples to not allow Hindutva groups the use of their premises.

In his over 1,500-page manifesto titled “2083: A European Declaration of Independence,” Breivik talks of Hindutva elements as allies and urges them to fight shoulder to shoulder with him to stem the spread of Islam in Europe.

“The Hindu-supremacist Hindutva movement in the US is a well-funded and powerful movement that has been involved in brainwashing American Hindu children and youth in the US with their brand of violent anti-Muslim and anti-Christian hate. These groups have been actively involved with the recent Islamophobic campaign in the US,” Ubaid said.

“For the last thirty years they have been busy infiltrating and gaining power among the various professional and trade associations of the Indian diaspora in the Americas, Europe, Africa and Far East. For the past two decades they have been using the growing economic and political clout of India on the international stage to infiltrate the power centers in the US under the guise of being ‘representatives of the Indian diaspora.' The more militant among the Hindutva fronts have openly formed alliances with white American hate groups and known Islamophobes,” he added.

Hindu nationalists have dismissed Breivik's praise of Hindutva as “motivated propaganda.”

“His entire so-called manifesto quotes conservative writers from both sides of the Atlantic. Ideological similarities have been drawn from all over, so to say suddenly that it is linked to Indian nationalists or Hindutva is simply motivated propaganda,” Ram Madhav, a senior leader of Indian nationalist movement the RSS was quoted as saying by The Times of India.
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2011-08-19

OSLO, Norway (AP) — An Oslo court held a hearing on Friday to decide whether the confessed killer of 77 people in Norway should be kept in isolation, a month after he detonated a bomb and went on a shooting rampage.


Thomas Winje Oeijord, AP

Terror-charged Anders Behring Breivik arrives in the back of a police car at the court in Oslo Friday,

Anders Behring Breivik showed up at closed hearing under heavy police protection. His earlier request to wear a black tuxedo to the session had been rejected by the Oslo District Court, which described it as "unnecessarily disturbing and provocative."

Breivik has admitted killing eight people when he exploded a truck bomb outside government offices in Oslo, then fatally shooting 69 people at a youth camp on Utoya island nearby.


The 32-year-old right-wing extremist denies criminal guilt because he believes the massacre was necessary to save Norway and Europe. He said the attacks were an attempt at cultural revolution, aimed at purging Europe of Muslims and punishing politicians that have embraced multiculturalism.

If found guilty on terrorism charges, Breivik could be sentenced to 21 years in prison. An alternative custody arrangement — if he is still considered a danger to the public — could keep him behind bars indefinitely.

Survivors, relatives and close friends of the victims were to visit Utoya later Friday and on Saturday to grieve at the island massacre site. Some 1,500 people were expected on the island.

On Sunday, a national memorial service was to be held at Oslo Spektrum arena, marking the end of a month of mourning in the Scandinavian country.

Breivik arrived at the court house in a black car under heavy escort.

His lawyer Geir Lippestad told reporters that Breivik would ask the court to lift his isolation.

"He wants to describe how he experiences his situation in isolation," Lippestad told Norwegian broadcaster NRK as he arrived at the court house.

In the first court hearing on July 25, officials decided he could be detained for eight weeks, including four weeks in isolation, meaning he had no access to television, newspapers and the Internet.

At Friday's hearing the court was to decide on a police request for another four weeks of isolation for the confessed killer.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16416791

4 January 2012

Norway killer Breivik is 'not psychotic', say experts

Experts monitoring the Norwegian killer, Anders Behring Breivik, say they believe he is not psychotic, contradicting court-appointed psychiatrists.

A team of experts reached the conclusion after monitoring Breivik in prison, said the public prosecutor who submitted their report to the court.

Breivik admits to twin attacks on 22 July 2011, which killed 77 people.

The original psychiatric analysis said he was insane.

The two court-appointed psychiatrists reached this conclusion after interviewing him on 13 occasions.

Their report said 32 year-old Breivik lived in his "own delusional universe where all his thoughts and acts are guided by his delusions".

The expert team of four psychiatrists assessing Breivik in prison disagreed with several of the original conclusions.

According to the report submitted by the Public Prosecutor, Svein Holden, they do not believe Breivik is psychotic or schizophrenic and do not think he needs drugs.

In addition they do not regard him as being at high risk of committing suicide.
'Scientific controversy'

Breivik is due to go on trial on terrorism charges on 16 April, regardless of whether or not he is regarded as sane.

As things stand, a guilty verdict would see him placed in psychiatric care rather than in prison.

The court is expected to decide within the next few weeks whether or not to order a new psychiatric evaluation.

Mr Holden said he would not be calling for a new assessment, despite the conclusions in the latest report.

A lawyer representing the families of three of Breivik's victims, John Arild Aasen, told Norway's TV2 channel the latest assessment was very important.

"It indicates that there is considerable scientific controversy and the necessity for further investigations, obviously," he said.

"We are afraid that the conversations that the experts have had with Breivik are not sufficient to reveal his real psychiatric situation."

Asked what his clients' thought, Mr Arild Aasen answered: "Their biggest fear is that he will be out on the street again in a few years".

Lawyers for Anders Behring Breivik say they are opposed to any new assessment.

"There is already a very detailed forensic medicine evaluation of the accused," lawyer Vibeke Hein Baera said in a letter released by the court.

Lasting impact

Breivik's killings on 22 July were the worst act of violence Norway has seen since World War II, and have had a profound impact there.

He disguised himself as a police officer to plant a car bomb that exploded close to government offices in the capital Oslo, killing eight people.

Still in uniform, he then drove to the island of Utoeya, where a summer youth camp of Norway's governing Labour Party was being held.

In a shooting spree that lasted more than an hour, he killed 69 people - mostly teenagers.

Breivik has admitted carrying out the attacks but has pleaded not guilty to the charges he is facing.

He says the attacks were atrocious but necessary for his campaign to defend Europe against a Muslim invasion.
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