What Do You Think?

[John.hergy]

Any bets on how long it takes "mainstream media" to start saying how horrible it is that Israel is again defending itself after yet another peace agreement has been violated.

how many peace agreements have to be violated by muslims (yes i consider rocket attacks against civilian targets a violation of the peace agreement) before the rest of the world sees islam as the untrustworthy governing body that it is.

Personally since each and every cease fire / peace agreement with Muslims has been violated for years. there is no reason to assume the next one will not be also. I hate to sound cruel but there comes a point where one just has to totally eliminate the attacker. especially since the only peace the attacker wants is simply to gain time to increase their strength and prepare for the next attack.

Since nothing else seems to work perhaps isreal should go back to the old ways of defense. For each of their people that is killed killed the attacker's country looses one city.



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Minister: We'll Hit Them Till They Say 'Enough'

Min. Moshe Yaalon says "We will put an end to this. We will not maintain restraint."
AAFont SizeBy Gil Ronen
First Publish: 11/11/2012

Minister Moshe Yaalon (Likud) said Sunday that Israel does not intend to maintain restraint in the face of the intense rocket attacks from Gaza.

"If the terror organizations do not cease their fire we will be prepared to toughen our response as much as necessary, until they say 'enough!'," he said.

"There is a complicated war here, and in the end we will finish it," he said. "This is not a one-off move. But we will put an end to it. We do not intend to maintain restraint because the situation is unbearable for us."

"We will bring quiet to the south even if it takes some time," he said. "Hamas's leadership will not get off scot free and as far as we are concerned, the most extreme options are possible."

Channel 2's political reporter quoted unnamed senior sources in Jerusalem Sunday who said that a ground operation like Cast Lead is not possible because Israel "does not have legitimacy" to act against Gaza as long as relatively few Israelis are killed and wounded by the terrorists. He added that Mohammed Morsi's election in Egypt and Barack Obama's re-election in the U.S. also make the situation more difficult for Israel.

[John.hergy]

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Israel confronts rocket attacks from Gaza, stray shelling from Syria


By Joel Greenberg, Nov 12, 2012 10:50 PM EST

The Washington Post JERUSALEM — Israel faced the prospect of stepped-up military action on two fronts Monday as rockets fired from Gaza hit southern communities for the third straight day, and the army said it shelled a Syrian artillery battery after a stray shell landed near one of its posts in the Golan Heights.

The attack on the mobile artillery battery was the first time that Israeli forces had engaged Syrian troops across the Golan frontier since the 1973 Middle East war, and it ratcheted up tensions across a cease-fire line that has been quiet for decades.

On Sunday, the Israeli army said it fired a guided antitank missile into Syria as a warning after the landing of another errant shell that had been fired in fighting between Syrian troops and rebels. The Israeli responses followed several recent incidents in which stray munitions from the clashes in Syria had fallen in Israeli-held territory.

The renewed firing Monday heightened concerns that the Syrian conflict could draw in Israeli forces on the Golan Heights, a strategic plateau taken by Israel from Syria in the 1967 Six-Day War. The fighting in Syria has led to sporadic clashes on the country’s borders with Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, raising fears that it could trigger wider regional conflict.

On Monday, Syrian jets bombed a rebel-held town along the Turkish border, killing more than a dozen people. Also Monday, a new umbrella organization for Syrian opposition groups was recognized by the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council, the first formal endorsement the group has received.

An Israeli army statement on Monday’s Golan incident said that a shell fired “as part of the internal conflict inside Syria” landed harmlessly in an open area near an army outpost in the central Golan Heights — the same post hit by a stray mortar shell Sunday.

Israeli troops responded by firing “tank shells toward the source of the fire, confirming direct hits,” the statement said. Military officials said that the tank fire hit a Syrian mobile artillery unit and that there was no response from Syrian forces.

Syria did not comment on the incident, and it was not reported on state news broadcasts.

Eyal Zisser, an expert on Syria at Tel Aviv University, said that despite the flare-up, neither Israel nor the embattled Syrian government had an interest in widening the hostilities. “It’s not something that either side wants to get into,” Zisser said. “It’s a very local and measured incident.”

Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Sunday that the army had been ordered to prevent the fighting in Syria from spilling over the Golan frontier.

Rising public clamor

Top government and military officials seemed more preoccupied Monday with the rocket attacks in the south. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu conferred with Barak and the army chief of staff to discuss possible responses that could address a rising public clamor for action without provoking an international outcry and rupturing delicate relations with Egypt, which has mediated between Israel and Hamas, the Islamist group that rules the Gaza Strip.

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